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PostSubject: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:30 pm

hi
if you have read my introduction (in the introduce me section) you will know why we are building this bike
its based on a 1979 gs550 which was rough at best, the guy i bought it off called it a barn find- more like left in the middle of a field for 20 years (i never saw the barn to see if it had a roof)
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:35 am

Piccies? Oh, and welcome! Ooops, just seen your post in newbies! Welcome anyway Tony, will be very interested to see what carbon wizadry you have to show us. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:15 am



i said it was a shed!!
it only had 11k miles on it too
spent a couple of hours on it the other day & reduced it to this
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:08 pm

The wizard will need a big carbon wand !!! that is gonna be a proper labour of love matey, good luck and i cant wait to see the carbon bits you make for it, will be an excellent opportunity to showcase your skills
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:04 pm

Oncas wrote:
The wizard will need a big carbon wand !!! that is gonna be a proper labour of love matey, good luck and i cant wait to see the carbon bits you make for it, will be an excellent opportunity to showcase your skills

i wont be using a carbon wand mate Laughing
it needs a big hammer Shocked Laughing
just started to do the tank i bought a rickman cr long tank cover & have started to fill the moulding cut outs ready to make a mould for the carbon one
havent decided if i will use a tank cover over a steel tank or make a full carbon one (which isnt recomended for road use) either way i will use the same top mould
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:56 pm

had a good few hours on it this morning
cut all the brackets off the frame- even cut out the lower frame brace with center stand mountings as we will be widening the frame by 20mm
for the new swinging arm to fit
found some rusty (almost rusted through areas) not too bothered as i will be bracing the frame
so those areas will be strenthened anyway

then started on bracing the headstock, just tack welded them in place as my mate is a better welder than i am (he does it for a living)
also braced accross the frame down tubes - diaganals to be added next when i test fit engine & exhaust

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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:06 pm

managed to get the engine in yesterday gsxr750 r705
phew it ws a tight fit
had to take the rocker cover off & remove the sump bolt so it would go in.
the rear upper engine mount lines up ok will have to make brackets up for the rest to line up.
Suzuki use the same head bearings throughout most of the range so got to fit some gsxr750 m yokes for the upside down front end.
more pictures next week
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PostSubject: a bit more work done   Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Had a very busy week at work this week sending carbon parts to the Usa,New Zealand, Italy along with a couple of wholesale orders & our Uk customers so not had much time to work on this project but still got a few bits done.
Here is what i have done this week,the engine is roughly in, needs mounting brackets making, have had to mount from the front bolts instead of the rear to pull the engine forward to clear the air filters on the frame rails.
The exhaust is loosely fitted to check for clearance for the extra bracing under the head stock to the new cross member i fitted last week.
Swinging arm now fits the frame (roughly) its a honda bros arm which i have fitted a vfr750 L hub & caliper which allows me to use a vfr 5.5" rear wheel, 180 section tyre.
The swinging arm mounts on the frame needs drilling out from 15mm to 16mm to fit a bros spindle & a center mount & it will need bracing possibly to the lower frame brace & engine mount which i have to make 20mm longer than standard .
The next major task is to widen the frame at the left swinging arm mount by 15mm to allow the chain to clear & let it run true also this puts the arm slightly over & the rear wheel bang in the center of the frame.
The forks are gsx750/1100 L & the wheel is the same at the moment, that will change for a honda wheel to match the rear prob an early 16" fireblade with speedo drive.
Tank cover is a rickman cr long tank unit which i have started to smooth ready to make a mould from
Next week i have to make rear shock mounts, rear set, mounts coil & battery box mount & try to finish the frame ready for blasting.

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PostSubject: update   Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:47 pm

have just added another 100 plus moulds to our collection, spent some time sorting that lot outl!!
just fitted the rear shock & started making the frame mountings up for it, will finish the bracing & hopefully get the frame welded up fully this week.
did a bit of work on making the plug / master for the seat unit mould, 7 layers of insulation foam bonded together with mastic & left under the weight of the bench sander for the weekend, have started to do a bit of shaping with a bread knife borrowed from home (please dont tell the mrs) have quite a bit to do on this but its taking shape slowly
tony




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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:38 am

That's moving along nicely! Do you have a web site for your carbon fibre bits yet?
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PostSubject: carbon   Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:48 am

we only have a holding page at the moment as it is taking forever to build our e-commerce site
& a bloody fortune,
best just emailing, texting, ringing or pm me for details, even if its just for pic of our work
tony
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:58 pm

hey tony
question can just about anything be replicated in carbon proving you have a part to be copied?
is carbon a good or bad idea for a petrol tank
cheers miffa
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:50 pm

hi mate
just about anything can be made in carbon, the original is the easiest way to make a mould but we can
make a master out of foam, paper mache etc just takes longer therefore costs more
petrol tanks are not road legal as far as my MOT bloke says as they could split on impact (i think they are as strong if not stronger than metal if made properly)
the other problem is unleaded fuel contains additives that attack & break down the resin(some epoxy resins are better than others at resisting this)you can get a coating that will protest the internals.
however we are working on a range of cafe racer tank cover in carbon or fiberglass which will fit over a standard tank or a purpose made tank
tony
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:15 am

carbon moto wrote:
hi mate
just about anything can be made in carbon, the original is the easiest way to make a mould but we can
make a master out of foam, paper mache etc just takes longer therefore costs more
petrol tanks are not road legal as far as my MOT bloke says as they could split on impact (i think they are as strong if not stronger than metal if made properly)
the other problem is unleaded fuel contains additives that attack & break down the resin(some epoxy resins are better than others at resisting this)you can get a coating that will protest the internals.
however we are working on a range of cafe racer tank cover in carbon or fiberglass which will fit over a standard tank or a purpose made tank
tony

I'd REALLY take issue with your MOT tester Tony, the only check an MOT tester can make is does your tank hold fuel and is it corroded? Unless it is specifically legislated against an MOT tester is not at liberty to fail a componenet because of what 'might happen'.

Unity Equipe sell a complete range of fibre glass tanks http://www.unityequipe.com/CATALOGUEPDF%20Sep-2010.pdf (see page 2) which I'm sure they would not do if they wouldn't pass MOT!

As for petrol eating resin, UK petrol is actually very low in Ethanol which is the major corrosive, but even so you can get tank sealer which forms a liner and protects against the corrosive elements in petrol.

The sky is the limit when working with fibre so don't limit yourselves to tank covers!
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PostSubject: Re: gs550 carbon fibre cafe racer   Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:57 am

will be talking to george today(my mot tester).

will ask him.
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