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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 12:39 pm

most Triumph oil tanks have two pipes one feed and one return well three if you include the breather Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 1:10 pm

IED if you look at the following link you will see the seat unit and my inspiration

https://caferacer.forumotion.com/t152-my-xj600-project

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 2:43 pm

Tonight I got in and made a start on the battery box.

I want it mounted under the pod so I can keep the area behind the engine clean and clear.

I'm using angle section and cuting it inbetween the frame

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After a bit of measuring and leveling I taped the first bit into place

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Then tacked it

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The other side was made the same way, and welded to the frame and the other section.

Battery sat in there nice, with space for a little foam rubber to protect my battery from the frame.

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I moved the bike outside to get a better look at it.

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The battery sits under there a nice snug fit

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I then cut a couple of plugs to go over the ends of the frame

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Got them in and ground to fit.

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The battery look really high sitting in the box,

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But its not an issue

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Thats that then. Now I can break down the frame and grind off any lugs that are not needed.

But before I do anything, I'm gonna clean up this mess.

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 3:05 pm

I find myself getting excited over this and it's not even my bike.
Are you going to powder coat the frame etc ?
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 3:33 pm

Yup, frame will be going to Impact coatings in Colchester Essex in a couple of weeks mate.

What colour do you want it lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 8:15 pm

are impact going to blast the frame first then coat it, what did they estimate the price as I contacted a firm in Clacton and they wanted approx £200 to blast and powdercoat silver my sons frame for his 125,also battery carrier looks good what means are u going to use to secure it in the carrier.
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 10:02 pm

Impact coatings quoted me £75.00 to blast and powdercoat the frame and swing arm, and I guess the engine mounts will be extra, so I guess around a 100 quid for the lot matey.

I think I might use a rubber strap like on my blade to hold the battery in mate.
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 12:12 am

I had my frame and swinging arm blasted and powder coated by a local guy who refurbs wheels, cost me 120 quid (100 for the frame, 20 for the arm) must admit I'm very pleased with it, just wish now I'd had it done in silver rather than black!
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 1:13 pm

IED wrote:

What colour do you want it lol!

Deep red please

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 1:54 pm

To shave a few lbs and up the power to weight ratio, the center stand has got to go, and as much of the mount I can chop without weakening the side stand mount.

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some of it was a bit awkward to get to, but I managed to tidy it up with my mini grinder.

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Next I droped out the swing arm

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Next I ground off any redundant mounts to clean up the frame.

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There we are then, next I'll drop out the front end and the frame will be ready for powdercoat.

I dont have anything to do to the swing arm except remove the shaft drive dif.

While the frame is away I can get on with renovating the diff, the carbs, the forks............... well you get the idea, still loads to do.

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PostSubject: seat plug   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyFri Jul 15, 2011 4:24 am

i have two builds on the go at the moment, a gsx550 and a BMW K75. The most vexing issue is the seat for both. Have used a modified GT380 seat for the GSX but not entirely happy. Can I ask you what you are going to do with you seat plug. Looks really useful to me but way beyond my skills. Fantastic build by the way. Do think these bikes are sadly overlooked but look excellent when cafed.
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyFri Jul 15, 2011 1:17 pm

The moment I poped the mold off the plug mate it went in the bin as I can now cast as many seat units from the mold as I like.

Sorry fella. When I start casting, let me know if you want one.

While I was at work today I was thinking how racer it would be to drill the battery box to lighten it up a bit. I really dont think it will make that much difference, but it might look cool.

When I got in I marked out a grid and dot punched it, then drilled smal pilot holes.

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Then opened the holes slightly with a bigger bit.

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Until I got to where I was happy with the hole size.

Might not look much now, but I think it will add to the over all effect.

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Swing arm was next.

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Be really carfull removing the wheel because the pads are made with asbestos and there may be dust in the drum you'll want to avoid, so for goodness sake dont blow it out and get a lung full.

Right, diff off next

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The three nuts that held it on were really tight, so I stuck it in my vice to get em undun.

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And thats the frame stripped ready to go for blasting and powdercoat.

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While its gone I have plenty to get on with including new fork seals

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And removing the tyres so I can get the rims refinished.

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptySat Jul 16, 2011 6:51 am

I was supposed to be working today building a garden wall, but the rain had other ideas about that.

I came home and started on the fan cowling

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I cleaned it up a while back ready for painting, and removed the rubber baffels. They were cracked and perrished and need to be replaced. I have no idea what Honda replacements would cost, if you can get them. So I decided to make my own from a thick lorry innertube.

First I used the old one to make a template

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Next I cut a section of rubber and cleaned it with meths

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Sat the template on it and held it flat with a few bolts, then gave it a dust over with spray paint.

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Then cut it out with strong sissors

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I'll cut the slots and holes once the cowel has been painted.

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While I'm painting the cowel I thought I would prep a few other bit and bobs for paint.

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So the dirt shield came off and got the treatment.

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Make sure to remove any dirt and grease before painting to give the paint a good chance of keying to the metal.

I use meths, but pre-paint is also the business.

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The Diff was ok, and looks a bit complicated so there is 2 good reasons to leave it alone. I'll give it a good clean and paint and stick it back on when the frame gets back.

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptySat Jul 16, 2011 9:39 am

So this after noon I've been cleaning, preping and painting parts

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Then turned my attentsion to my yokes. I want to paint the lower yoke and polish the top yoke.

Problem is these lines. They are left by the joint in the two sides of the mold when the part is cast.

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and they go right round the part.

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I guess the factory see them as unnessary costly to remove, bit I think the part looks better without them.

They are not hard to remove with a file and aluminium oxide paper

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Take a little time and use round back or rat tail files

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Theres a job I can do infront of the telly, flatten them off with wet and dry paper ready to polish.

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The bottom yoke is made from cast steel so I gave that a blast of paint too.

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Well the weather front seems to have passed over so tomorrow I'll go build the garden wall I was going to do today, that will cover the cost of the frame powder coating next Saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptySat Jul 16, 2011 4:58 pm

Coming along nicely.

Good work. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptySun Jul 17, 2011 11:37 am

One of the sides has come away from my radiator, when I looked it had solder on the back of the joint.

I have soldering equipment so I thought I would have a go at repairing it myself.

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First I added flux, this is an acid the will clean the surfaces when its heated.

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Next I gently applied pressure to bring the two parts together with a clamp

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Then applied heat to activate the flux then melt the lead solder

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after a few moments the solder will bond

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Then the clamp can be removed

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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 4:08 pm

Theres a show on tv called Wheeler Dealers.

The host buys cars on a budget, then takes them to his mechanic, where he restores them and they then sell the car on for a profit.

I like the show, but one aspect of it bugs the life out of me.

The mechanic will fit a brand new shiney part then use rusty old screws and bolts to hold it in place.

Not me, not on this project.

So tonight I decided to give all my bolts a good going over to brighten them right up

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Its worth the effort, and will make a huge difference to the finished project

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Well, if I wasnt doing this I'd just be stuck infront of the telly

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another job, jobbed!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 8:31 pm

Don't know if you saw Cafe Racer on Discovery Shed Sunday night? One of the builds was guess what? Yep, a CX500, and a right nice job it was too!
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 10:33 pm

Yeah I saw that, the guy made a really nice job but I wasnt to sure I liked the seat Very Happy
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PostSubject: Patience   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 10:38 pm

Can't believe you cleaned every nut and bolt, impressive. If you are not careful you're gonna have your own cafe racer tv episode
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyMon Jul 18, 2011 10:48 pm

If they pay, I'll do it. lol Laughing
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PostSubject: Nuts & Bolts   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 12:11 am

IED, Are you getting your nuts and bolts replated. It's relatively inexpendsive and looks the dogz when done. Think there even small Diy kits available for BZP, and also Nickel if memory serves. I will post a link in the tech section.
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 6:59 am

I agree plating or getting polished stainless nuts and bolts would look the dogs
frost auto restoration do diy plating and anodizing kits see link below

http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-electroplating.html

cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyTue Jul 19, 2011 11:34 am

Wow, nice link cheers matey bloke Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Honda CX 500 first Café build   Honda CX 500 first Café build - Page 5 EmptyThu Jul 21, 2011 2:33 pm

Hi J, Very impressed with what you've done so far, especially the engine top end BUT,
Don't Forget to get the genny sent off to be rewound before reassembling everything!!
I'd hate to think that you'd forgotten that it wasn't charging when you bought the bike, what with all the other distractions on the beast. affraid
All the best , N.
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